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These talks up for success? >> well, i'm worried that this kind of summit backlash is kind of -- it is focusing on the wrong issue, which is whether or not there's a summit. the real issue is whether or not a summit can be successful or whether it is going to be a failure. the problem i see right now is that while there's been a lot of this back and forth, i'm not so sure there has been sufficient preparation by both sides in order to ensure that when a summit takes place that it can be successful in laying the ground work for negotiations in the future. i think people are missing the point of...

Issues. moving forward i think the messaging here will be sense tifr and the u.s. and north korea will have to be careful how they talk to each other opinion there's the potential for things to reverse course and go horribly wrong. >> thanks for your reporting. we are grateful to you. thanks so much. let's go right to the former defense secretary. he also served as the cia director during the obama administration. when you look at the back and forth of the the past 24, 48 hours on what's going on, will there be a summit. won't there be a summit. who is benefitting from all of this? the u.s. ...