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Our campaign is funds, if you can believe this, to the tune of $16 a contribution. from over a million people in this country. >> charles: all right. jason, your thoughts? >> i agree with bernie sanders, this is a desperate move on the part of a crash-strapped biden campaign. biden doesn't have to play by the same rules as bernie sanders. he's a moderate democrat. he's like hillary clinton who had a super pact that gave her tens of millions of dollars. he's playing by moderate rules, moderate rules say that you can have people, super pacts donate. you don't necessarily have to go by the same p...

People think joe walsh is the guitar player for the eagles or something. a lot of people don't know who this guy is. it's going to take a lot of cash to get his message on the air waves and to get voter things going on, to get door to door, to get everything you need in the campaign. this takes cash. you got to have a lot of it. especially if you're going to be running against a war chest. the rnc has a super pact. trump has a super pact. oh, my gosh. this is a lot of money you're going be running against. where are you beginnigoing to g? >> one other quick thing. the first question you asked ...

He hasn't been in the race all winter to be raising money. i'm not certain. he likes to delay things, as we know. but it looks like he's getting in for sure. >> dana: i noticed, iowa, you're getting ads already in this cycle. the club for growth decided it's going to take a shot at beto o'rourke, all not officially in the race, but a democrat from texas. made a big name for himself nationally. take a look at this. >> beto o'rourke's image crafters say he's barack obama but white. he sure does act like it. born with a blue blood pedigree, son of a prominent family. his father-in-law, a billiona...

Run he would not accept money from a super pack. is that a move to appeal to bernie sanders or elizabeth warren? they made pledges to keep big money out of their campaigns. >> he cannot do it like he used to, but the question is he will still have to will people send in $10 every month to support joe biden? i'm not sure about that. but a superpact at this point is pretty much what virtually everyone is doing. that's easy. the question is can he raise the money? >> let's check in with chris. >> i don't think raising the money is going to be the issue. it's going to be how does he shape the me...

President and the best one to govern. but anderson, there is a sense talking to voters, i was in iowa this weekend and a lot of people like joe biden, they say look, we like everything he stands for but is it time for a new fresh face? so he would have to contend with those concerns long before the idea of taking on president trump. >> biden also said if he were to run he would not accept money from a super pack. is that a move to appeal to bernie sanders or elizabeth warren? they made pledges to keep big money out of their campaigns. >> i think it's accepting new money in politics. he cannot ...