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Bankruptcy fraud. who is going to hold them accountable? the government? >> can i read this michael moore quote? there are people on the right who are going to agree with this. i'm opposed to the death penalty, but to every rule there's usually an except. i hope someone in the obama administration will march into gm headquarters in downtown detroit and holloway anyone who is there who had anything to do with this, and if they already went down, hunt them down to face justice. >> you wonder why companies allow this to happen, i don't understand why this didn't come out in the first place. >> mo...

Mark murray joins us live. we just showed the graphic. does it boil down to the logic we see when you look at numbers? >> it really does. obama has his big e-mail list. we saw him raise some $750 million in 2008. when the super pacs come in, they can really narrow that financial advantage. when you add the obama campaign and the dnc, you have roughly about $250 million. when you -- with the romney campaign and the rnc, you have $160 million. when the super pacs start coming in, it gets closer to a one to one parity. the obama campaign don't want to disarm unilaterally. >> as our banner says, s...