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I believe in the american people, and i believe in the fact that jurors will listen fairly and impartially. And for people who say they wont, dana, those are people who believe only in themselves, like donald trump and not the american people. Former Vice President mike pence says he has no plans to testify in a federal trial of trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election, but he says he will comply with the law if called to be a witness. The day before january 6th, if memory serves, they came back, his lawyers did, and said we want you to reject votes outright. They were asking me to overtur...

Arraignment that we saw, and i guess all of his social media posts he put up over the weekend although i'm not sure given what we've seen so far, how that would change the dynamic too much in this field. we were talking about former governor asa hutchinson earlier this hour, and he was saying there's still some time to change some minds. is that your sense? >> well, the one thing i will say is iowa republicans, iowans are notoriously late deciders. there is still a segment of the electorate here who can be persuaded and can still land on a different candidate. it's just that margin continues t...

I think trump has more support than people realize. >> there are five candidates that are splitting the establishment vote. of course he is winning in double digits. once people start to fall off assuming they will fall off because everyone has see much money right now you will see the support coalescing around one or two candidates. the candidates have 50% of the vote right now and trump has 30%. at some point it's going to give. but just a matter of what happens in new hampshire and arizona. >> and a lot of the vote could go to cruz. if huckabee and santorum drop out, those voters probably g...