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The way. >> absolutely, john. he has to put the best spin as he can on this, but it is a huge disappointment, and i think that we should note that it is constantly progressives who are asked to make these concessions. they are always the ones at the end of the day who are getting the short end of the stick here. when this is all said and done and this is whittled done, the moderates of the party, both senator manchin and senator sinema and the moderates who we don't talk about who are hiding behind them, they will have won, but progressives will have had to swallow another loss here, and it is...

Over which economic system works best, capitalism works best or socialism. let's have those arguments and those are valid arguments and i don't think we need to question whether each of us believe in trying to fix the system and trying to get more health care. greg: senator paul, appreciate you coming on. >> thanks. greg: as republican senators lose support moderates on both sides look for open to go reach a bipartisan deal, joining us from charlton, we've virginia democratic senator joe manchin, let me start by asking you do you believe that obamacare is broken and is in danger of collapse as...

Best, capitalism works best or socialism. let's have those arguments and those are valid arguments and i don't think we need to question whether each of us believe in trying to fix the system and trying to get more health care. greg: senator paul, appreciate you coming on. >> thanks. greg: as republican senators lose support moderates on both sides look for open to go reach a bipartisan deal, joining us from charlton, we've virginia democratic senator joe manchin, let me start by asking you do you believe that obamacare is broken and is in danger of collapse as the president so often says? >> ...

Best, capitalism works best or socialism. let's have those arguments and those are valid arguments and i don't think we need to question whether each of us believe in trying to fix the system and trying to get more health care. greg: senator paul, appreciate you coming on. >> thanks. greg: as republican senators lose support moderates on both sides look for open to go reach a bipartisan deal, joining us from charlton, we've virginia democratic senator joe manchin, let me start by asking you do you believe that obamacare is broken and is in danger of collapse as the president so often says? >> ...