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R payments to insurance company. i just heard the president approved the next cost reduction payment which is a good thing for those of us who support obamacare. i will point out, it didn't make the news bauds that was like yesterday. democratic senator from new hampshire introduced the legislation she calls the marketplace certainty act. it's a small bill but it predicts one of the problems which is the cost sale reduction. she has legislation that will fix that. the republicans in the senate wouldn't let her bring that up. you get 50 votes out of 100 much more alicialy than you get 50 votes ...

I'm not sure why this would be the thing that would send jeff sessions over the edge when there's so many things that are problematic. >> the question to me, the news today is health care, right? the president's major push has been to repeal and replace obamacare. it is dead or dying. you'd think if he sat down with the -- by the way, maggie is now the president's psychologist. she should be paid on the health care plan, not by "the new york times" and cnn. >> i'm not sure the health care plan is going to cover it. we'll have to look at the cbo score. >> no real news about health care. no real...

Through the roof, et cetera. >> so the president here allows, you know, if he doesn't get anything passed and just allows everything to fail, you think the message is going to be the democrats are the ones going to get the blame? >> i got in trouble the last time i said this. i'll call it the gandi strategy. >> he was all about denying health care. >> he was all about pushing it to crisis, to get independence. that's the strategy here is to push to crisis. >> and if i may press the point, it was active persistence. the president is undermining obamacare. president trump is. he is pulling back ...

Republicans to vote for them. >> thomas jefferson said of savory, it's like having a wolf by the ears, you can't let go and you can't hold on. this is a quagmire. you can't give it up. paul ryan came out after the house vote and said well, obamacare is the law of the land. we're going to move on. that didn't last. they cannot give it up or abandon it. i just wonder when do they move on? will they ever do tax reform or infrastructure? >> they'll go there, but this is the president. one of his personal qualities is when people tell him know, he finds 17 other ways to make it a yes. >> they're go...

And so the fact is you can talk about oh, he is off message, he is stepping on his political message. that's bad for him politically. this isn't a communications problem for donald trump. this is an actual investigation. it's going to go where it goes no matter it's made in america week or not. >> we have to take a quick break and continue this conversation. the president has just put out a statement on john mccain. "senator john mccain has always been a fighter. melania and i send our thoughts and prayers to john mccain, cindy and their entire family." get well soon. we'll have more from magg...