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Something above that, in other words a president who finds ways of trying, at least, on a surface level to bring people together rather than, you know, accusing everybody else of acting badly and putting the blame on everybody else for what he himself is supposed to be demonstrating leadership on, this is a president who just sees himself as just one more player in the crowd rather than having a different, special, and unique responsibility that we typically assign to our presidents in times of crisis. >> peter baker and bill crystal, thank you so much for you both being with us today. and k...

Whistle? >> laura we already know in this country what fashion his many means. we've heard it used many times. we know extreme nationalism is what got hitler to the person he is and what we know him to be. though i won't go as far as to call trump hitler, i will say it smells very hitlerish. the problem is that not only are you attempting to say that america is better than any other country which on the surface level is a harmless term, surface level. when we peel back the layers and have i conversation about what fashion his many means and how it's been used against people of color, muslims, ...

>> we know what nationalism means and we've heard it many times. that's what catapulted hitler to the person that he is and that we don't want to be today and, though i won't go as far to call trump hitler, i will say it smells hitler-ish. the trouble with that is, not only argue attempting to say that america is better than any other country which, on a surface level is a harmless term. but when we peel back the layers and have a conversation about what nationalism means and how it's been used against people who are muslim, people of color, people who may not necessarily be "patriotic" in thi...

Everything. >> we're ready to question everything. i mean, we've changed so much in twitter over the past 12 years. i know it doesn't always feel that way. but we've changed a lot. but we haven't changed the underlying fundamentals. we haven't changed some of the incentives that we probably took for granted because they were easy when we built it, and they felt obvious when we built it but it may not be relative today. >> when you say "health," is that a euphemism for something? >> we've seen all these issues on the surface. we've seen abuse, we've seen trolling, we've seen harassment, we've s...

Decided to release this to the press. >> there's a strategy call as to whether to waive privilege related to the tape to preserve the argument. but even so, michael cohen was taping his client. >> when was a whole -- we talked about this on friday, we'll come back to your whole mob parallel in a second, but john, surface level, is this not just shady mcgrady? >> i think it is shady mcgrady but oh so much more. we can't just normalize this. that's dangerous. we'll put it in a presidential context. this is a current president of the united states in the heat of the campaign talking with his lawy...