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Second, his security clearance ought to be withdrawn until that independent investigation is completed and if he has violated any law or ethical precept he ought to be fired. >> that's a -- security clearance at least temporarily withdrawn. you can't be a national security adviser at the white house without security clearance. >> no question. keep in mind, there is some subtle under the surface message there. remember back in the campaign with whether we talked about security clearances, et cetera. this gets to the bigger issue, issue for the democrats, and many senior republicans as well, the...

Simplistic sort of populist talk, millionaires, billionaires, pay your fair share. warren buffet rule. it's not really getting and digging deep beneath the surface to really explain. foreign policy took out usama bin laden but ok, what about iran, israel, iraq, afghanistan. it's sort of the simplistic surface message, will it work with the american voter or will they dig deeper? >> well, it appears to be working with the president's base. democrats love -- when the president talks about fairness, democrats love that. they say yep, everything has got to be fair. there's a new poll out by a mode...