Hello, lovely to have you with us on the bbc. that will be tough to swallow, won t it? are those figures justified? i swallow, won t it? are those figures “ustified? ~ , ., swallow, won t it? are those figures ustified? ~ , ., ., ., justified? i think you need to ask the question. justified? i think you need to ask the question, lobbyists - justified? i think you need to ask the question, lobbyists are - justified? i think you need to ask l the question, lobbyists are saying, yes they are justified because we need to attract the best ceos to uk or to keep them here. but actually, this is not consistent across the world. if you look at some of the date on that ratio, if you say, if we are at 200, the usa is at 270. but funnily enough, germany is only at 136. so the ratio germany ceo pay is much less and in europe 150. i have not heard major german companies are having trouble attracting ceos. so maybe it is not quite as important as the lobbyists are suggesting. ....