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>> it's anger into action. that's what the oversight chair carolyn maloney says she hopes to achieve next week during hearing, were survivors and parents of victims eovaldi and buffalo will tell american lawmakers their stories. nbc news reports that on wednesday, the committee will hear testimony from the zeneta everhart, whose son, zaire goodman, was injured at the tops supermarket in buffalo, as well as from uvalde's sole pediatrician, roy guerrero, and felix and kimberly rubio, whose daughter lexi was killed at robb elementary school. miah cerrillo, who covered herself in a murde...

congress, and democracy itself. this is another member of the ex presidents inner circle. he was indicted, and republicans are caught on tape planning to dispatch an army of activists to polling sites to target and potentially overturn votes in democratic precincts. the reporter who understood those tapes joins me later in the show. plus, the lawyer who scored an unprecedented victory for sandy hook families against the gunmaker in that case has turned his attentions to the gun maker in the uvalde texas massacre. i will talk to him about that legal strategy that could be the turning ...

He told us on television. here is how navarro posted on it right here, on msnbc, to my colleague ari, back in february. >> my focus, ari, was simply on the green bay sweep plan. it was, basically, to have, and it started flawlessly, the battleground states challenge the results. that would trigger 24 hours of hearings in the house and senate. and, by that, we could bypass the media and get out the truth of what probably happened in the battleground states. quarterback mike pence's job, at that point, was to take ten days and go back and give the state legislators, who are the ones who have the...

>> and we heard it, joyce. navarro centrally laid out on tv the alleged plot to overturn the election. he explained it almost as if it was perfectly logical, acceptable, this was a smart thing that they were doing. i mean, saying it out loud, doesn't make any difference? what does it tell us about, and how does a level of planning that seems to have gone into this play into this investigation? >> i think peter's right to say that navarro was hardly an expert when it came to elections. the notion that he could have crafted, whatever you could call it, a green bay sweep, or a coup, really defies...

Electors, when did you become aware of that plan? >> that's not part of my remit or on radar. my focus was on the green bay sweep plan. >> so as a prosecutor, walk us through your reaction, because when he said sweep, he's referring to the arrangements around getting the cooperations as he put it on january 6, but it is also now known that cooperation might have been increased by the manufacturing of a fake controversy or supposedly dueling electors which seems at least overlapping coincidentally with what he's working on. how do you look at that? >> if you look at first words out of his mouth...