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A lot of republicans are down cast. >> bill: i think it's because romney hasn't been forceful enough. last year -- last elections 61% 45%. romney is running better than mccain ran in the polls. and i do believe it's because of disenchantment with president obama i know a will the of people myself antidotal doesn't do much good here. who they are not sure about romney, that's why i'm saying that the first debate means everything if he can inspire people who are not devoted. 42% devoted to president obama are not going to vote for romney. there is swing area there where if the president comes of...

Spirit of 2012, which is a much more smash mouth kind of politics we saw in 2008, in some way joe biden is better suited to this than either mitt romney or barack obama. he can deliver a punch to the gut and kind of prop you back up and smile at you and make you feel okay after he does it. he's very tough. of all four of the guys on the ticket, romney, ryan, biden, he's the only one in a speaks the language of populism. he always has. he has the working class, scranton pennsylvania, he talks to voters better than anyone else. >> isn't it something when vice presidential candidates -- he comes ...

Surprising somebody wouldn't know about you even if they follow politics? >> i have broken my collarbone mountain biking and dislocated my shoulder all last year-and-a-half kayaking. so you know, kayaking, mountain biking, yeah i love that stuff. i like to hunt. i like to fish. bill: he is popular in ohio too which you would think help romney in a state so critical and will be again this year. romney makes an appearance in virginia today with another possible vp pick. governor bob mcdonnell, from virginia, in 2008 democrats won the state for the first time since 1964. considered a swing area t...

Campaign, what happened, jenna? jenna: after viewers of the "popular science" fiction show got word of that, they streeted this write-in campaign to the white house. they wrote all the letters to the white house to change the name to enterprise. that is how we have the name enterprise for this special craft instead of the constitution. it does, haves a different ring to it, doesn't it, jon. jon: didn't fly into space as jenna mentioned but they needed the craft to be able to practice and test the landing capabilities of this highly-complex spacecraft. it was, come back to earth to land as a kb...

Policies that we tried and didn't work. mitt romney wants to go back to those policies and i think that's an absolutely critical issue to be discussed in this campaign. >> stephanie, what do you say, what does the president say to this independent voter, i'd say living outside of pittsburgh, you know, a swing area, that's sitting there and they don't feel like the economy has gotten better for them yet and they say the president has been in office for 3 1/2 years. it hasn't gotten better for me yet. what does the president say to that person? >> i think that independent voter understands that ...