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It's as easy of a swing county as it is, bush carried it in '04. by 22,000 votes. obama carried it by 30,000 votes there. it's why mitt romney spent a lot of time in cincinnati this week. >> as hamilton county goes, perhaps so ohio goes. let's turn to governor of ohio, john kasich. always great to have you on the program. >> good to listen to the big debate on "meet the press" this morning, wow. >> it's nice to start with a little bit of a chuckle here before we get into the serious issues. this was the cleveland "plain dealer" on thursday, jeff darcy here's his cartoon. i thought was so telli...

Before the final debate. take a moment here to take us through how each side thinks they win the state. >> the joke is there are five, it's five states within one state. the five ohios. let me take you through basically the romney pattern here. which is run up the score in coal country, that's what bush did in '04, and win the swing areas of columbus media market, an '04 bush territory. was '08 obama. and win hamilton county. for the president, run up the score in cleveland, cuyahoga county and overperform with working-class white guys in the auto belt, if you will, the toledo area. if you're ...

Early voting two days in a row in washoe county which includes reno where governor romney was there earlier this week, and he is pinning big hopes on the rural counties, what do you think of that? >> i think all of that is true, thomas, but comparing 2008 which was a landslide wave election especially here in nevada where john mccain essentially abandoned the state and did not campaign here is a fool's errand for republicans, but what they're right about is romney will win by a big margin in rural nevada, that's only about 12%, maybe 15% of the vote. washoe county is a swing county. the regist...

Adam smith. i've known you a long time. the last thing you are is a mean guy. >> i'm a pussycat. >> adam, we're putting on the spot here. two weeks ago, all of the republican smart people would talk to all of us and say, virginia, north carolina, florida, that's moving romney after this first debate. now it's all about the midwest. right or wrong? >> i don't think so. if you look at average of the polls, romney up one or two points but this is very much a toss-up state. demographics are favoring obama. absentee ballots look very good. >> what's changed from '04 florida to today florida? >> her...

It's the final fight for florida, the sunshine state, the battleground grand prize with 29 electoral votes. the obama and romney campaigns are intensifying their push for votes especially in hillsborough county. that's a swing county in a swing state. >> everybody realizes the tampa area is the dead center of ground zero. >> nbc's ron allen is live in tampa. give us your sense of it. you've been on the ground. what are people saying there in the tampa area. >> a big push with rahm emanuel here the republicans had their convention here that tells you a lot about how important tampa is. and this...