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>> ron paul. >> ron paul won them big. >> so you're seeing this interesting thing. how does romney get those people to come in assuming he's the nominee? they may be the folks up for grabs. the actual swing group of independents that decide this thing, ron paul's got him. not romney and how -- and those may be the people that obama can get back and that's -- that could be the point. >> great point, joe. did you notice that in ron paul's speech, he kind of said nice things about mitt romney, he basically said, listen, you don't attack the free market. i think it's wrong for republicans who atta...

>> well, 75% went for obama, so i'm not sure -- >> so you should cede the population? >> well, latinos, as we know, don't vote in the proportions that their population would represent. and i think one of the things that the president was doing the other day was probably reaching out on behalf of harry reid alone with that immigration speech to try to generate some enthusiasm amongst the hispanics in nevada. >> but, you know, they're still a swing group. bush did fairly well -- >> 44%. >> -- among this group, so he was being competitive. but when you look out west like nevada, new mexico, and c...

Would cement that. when you don't get legislative accomplishments under your belt, that hurts. shocker. >> you look at the subgroups, mike allen, african-americans not up for grabs. line goes straight across for support. but hispanics continue to be a swing group. hispanics that like george w. bush in 2004, liked obama in 2008, they are nobody's sure vote. >> and republicans are doing nothing for them and no demographic trend benefits republicans, not a single one. >> the hispanic community is unnaturally misrepresented among -- >> mike allen, thank you very much. >> welcome to washington. >> ...

Xenophobic fear and suspicion. and you know, he's being condemned bibi other people in the republican party. the other wave looking at it is, the republican party has laid the groundwork in many ways. >> that's right. >> in the mainstream for what donald trump is proposing. how do you see it. >> i see it as the second. i think this goes all the way back to the southern strategy of richard nixon who made it a deliberate strategy to pull the southern democrats who were racist out of the democratic party into the republican party. and that will really -- that swing group then became republican an...

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