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To a 60 millimeter mortar, well against trucks or things not heavily armored but not against a tank or armored vehicle. the other variant, the 600 has the same warhead as a javelin does in it. so that can take out a tank and john kirby was suggesting that some of those six hundreds are what are on their way to ukraine. and we were talking with general keith kellogg a couple weeks ago, lamenting the fact looked like we were giving the 300s and not the 600s, but now looks the more powerful version of it, effective in pushing back russian forces in the eastern part of the counsel dry. >> good but...

Keep that option open going forward. i would rather not get into specifics about each shipment in terms of variant of the switch blade, but we are going to keep talking to them and working, and helping them get additional ones if they need it. now, this is not a system that the ukrainians typically use, so there is going to need to be a little bit of training. it is not a very complex system, it does not require a lot of training. an individual could be suitably trained how to use the switch blade drone in two days or so. so, when you heard the secretary and the chairman talk yesterday about s...

Used in that capacity. >> thank you, john. i have two questions on -- >> sandra: all right, you just heard our own jen griffin get some questions in there, the most recent question that she put to him was about the announcement from the pentagon on the $100 million in javelin anti-armor missiles to ukraine, we just had general keane here last hour showing some frustration, along with the ukrainians getting what the ukrainian fighters need when they need it most and the slowness of that happening. so we will continue to monitor the briefing from the pentagon, john. >> john: and jen was getting ...

Germany, this giant economic power house which has a great officer corps but no technology, no equipment, no budgets. they just came together and said we're going to double the defense budget investment next year. that's good news for nato deterence. >> and to the point, it may sort of put more options on the table for president zelenskyy. just real quickly, general mccaffrey, what do you think the most sort of, the best use of president zelenskyy's sort of words are tomorrow in terms of getting things that america hasn't taken off the table? >> we have switch blade, it is a

It, you could not stop it. our country experienced the same every day right now. >> got a standing ovation from lawmakers and after president biden announced an additional $800 million in assistance for ukraine but not the no-fly zone zelenskyy wants. the weaponry will include switch blade drones that are comma cazy drones that detonate on impact. there is some of what the president said. this could be a long and difficult battle. his unethical attacks on populations. we are united. and we'll continue to have their backs as they fight for their