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Was illegal. now, that is crucial. because if true it makes his arrest completely fair. it's a major claim that could derail part of the case against the police. the attorney demanding investigators hand over that knife. meanwhile the prosecutors, marilyn mosby, says in a statement "i refuse to litigate this case through the media. the evidence we have collected cannot ethically be disclosed, relayed or released to the public before trial." she is standing by her original bombshell allegation. >> the knife was not a switch blade and is lawful under maryland law. lieutenant rice officer miller ...

Then when marilyn mosby spoke last week she made clear it was she believes it was not a switchblade, it is a legal knife. it will be important, because they are charged with false imprisonment. >> that's right. the nation's new attorney general loretta lynch she met with members of the gray family as well as police leaders, community leaders, city officials, including mayor stephanie rawlings-blake who stressed the need for action. >> we cannot afford to fail. i believe that the relationship between the police and the community, it's like a marriage and separation is not an option. divorce is ...

Not. the state prosecutor, the state attorney seems to suggest they knew it was legal yet they still arrested freddie gray? >> that's where the difference lies in the case. bear in mind, the reports were that freddie gray began running the minute he saw the cops and he was in a high crime neighborhood. the supreme court has said that would have justified a reasonable stop. they could have pursued him and stopped and made inquiry. she doesn't talk about that. it's mixed up together like the initial stop was illegal. now, the second part is could they arrest him after the stop? if that knife was...

True, probable cause, you don't have to be right, you know, because think about what we're talking about. you make a good point. what does a switch blade look like. so many varieties of knife from butcher to a fingernail file and we know that because remember when tsa put the regulations into effect people couldn't tell the things apart. >> should a police officer working the beat be able to tell that apart? >> they should. >> shouldn't they? >> except even if he's wrong it doesn't mean probable cause disappears. >> he just had some concept. >> if it was good faith. >> running away, a high cri...

Or might make it legal or illegal. i don't think we have andrew levy -- i'm here, i'm sorry, i'm here. can you repeat your question? marilyn mosby said in her announcement of the charges that the knife was not a switchblade meaning it was lawful under maryland law. andy alperstein is saying yes, but under local battler more law, there may be a provision that doesn't make this particular knife illegal, which then would justify the arrest. >> well, look, andy -- as andy knows, this actually gets litigated a lot. it's not uncommon for people to be charged with a dangerous weapon violation and the...