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Appoint richard holbrooke and richard mitchell in the middle east. there was a lot of belief that you just undercut the most important issues in terms of being secretary of state. hillary clinton won't be able to be engaged on those issues, and here we are telling stories about her role in pakistan, what she did there and a sense that she was, in fact, ultimately a very powerful secretary of state. >> i don't think anybody should underestimate her, and i wouldn't underestimate her because of richard holbrooke or george mitchell. they were two key allies of hers. remember when she was appointed...

States and the other permanent members of the security council. there's a very big, very tough agenda ahead of this new swuf state. >> and, in fact, there was some reporting over the weekend that hillary clinton had tried to move the white house to be more aggressive on syria on arming the rebels, and that john kerry is actually more in sync with mccain on that and with a more aggressive posture of leadership for the u.s. on syria. >> well, i think the administration is going to have to ask itself whether its present policy can work because assad is just strong enough to survive, and the rebel...

>> she has done such a job by everyone's account as swuf state. yet, she today acknowledged benghazi was a major regret. the threat assessment process didn't work according to the independent review board, and there are probably regrets about the middle east, about the direction that the administration, not healthing hillary rodham clinton, but the administration, the president took initially with prime minister netanyahu which really did poison the atmosphere for peace negotiations down the road. >> nobody pitches a perfect game every time out. look, hillary clinton, if she decides to become ...

>> today john kerry has a wide open layup. it is thursday, january 24th, and this is "now." >> joining me today assistant managing editor of fortune magazine lee gallagher, and "new york times" columnist frank brunhy. this morning senator john kerry spent an hour on the other side of the panel he chairs. the senate foreign relations committee. in his confirmation hearing for swuf state, kerry sat in the same room where a day before the committee grilled secretary of state hillary clinton about benghazi. kerry didn't exactly face the same firepower. >> i look at you in being nominated for this ...