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Donald trump is the first president who never cracks 50% approval. i mean, that is an astonishing statistic. he has never gotten over 50%, even though the economy is in great shape. and why is that? it's because everything that he says or does repulses a significant portion of the electorate. i mean, he's got about 40% of the base is behind him, but the other 60% of the country basically is turned off by what he is saying. there is actually a fascinating pew survey in april and may which asked people how they reacted to what donald trump says. 76% are confused. 70 confused. 69% embarrassed. 67...

And special adviser to bohm, cnn political commentator van jones. dave, let's start with you. how much of the folks tonight do you expect to be on joe biden? >> when you're the front-runner, you've got the target on your back. that's just a reality in politics. and he has felt that the last couple of debates. and that time he'll get to feel it with all of the top tier folks on stage with him. how he handles it informs us about the state of his mind and how he turns some of that energy coming his way and pushes it back out, as you were hearing, if indeed joe biden delivers on what his campaign ...

This president and the way he does his business and the chaos that ensues is really disturbing to these voters. and it's not going to change, anderson. that's the thing. what we've seen is as he feels pressed, he becomes more frenetic. and his theory of politics is that there are no undecided voters, that it's all about mobilization. if you just turn things up to the maximum into the red and excite your base, then you can win. and i think as he turns the dial into the red, he is going to -- he is going to lose a small but decisive group of voters. >> rick wilson has this book. >> yeah. >> he i...

Lose. in the fist debate, she was strong, some people thought too strong, she buzz was also warm. she said "this little girl was me." when you have strength and warm, that's a very strong combination. the second debate, she tried to be strong, but biden punched her and tulsi gabbard beat her up, and she didn't respond well. so she looked weaker so she never humanized. she looked colder. she went from strong and warm to colder and weaker. which one shows up tonight is going the determine whether or not she has a future even as a vp pick. i am very curious what kamala harris does tonight. >> i t...

Had one of these nights, and we've had someone on from the biden campaign,i think wehad one with the last time, they had sort of laid out this whole strat zwri what they were going to be talking about. none of that actually came up. >> exactly. we'll see. even the first debate, it seemed he was prepped a little bit too much and kind of came across on stage. in the second debate, you're right. he went in, i think the whole quote was i think i'm not going to be so polite this time. and he was in some ways polite and kind of gave up some of his time when he was answering questions. but the warre...