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An outcome in syria, some of the things that michael was talking about here in the future. >> and you get the idea of america not being willing to have that fight. and i want to look a little closer about that because it's really striking to me if you take the last ten years and the ten years before, how dramatically public opinion towards the idea of intervention has changed. and we'll get into that after this. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed...

Conservatism suddenly change again if republicans got the presidency back? >> i think one thing that's interesting is if you look at state legislatures, right? we haven't seen that. so state legislatures are dealing with actually governing their states, and a lot of them are republicans -- republicans still dominate at the state level. you know, what we're seeing is folks sticking with the conservative, you know, kind of national agenda. so you know, slashing things, not expanding medicaid, not doing things that, you know, another era of republicans might be much more amenable to doing. so i m...

Ballot that are so personal for individuals like gun control, like a woman's right to choose, that might be the base. >> in a way it's sort of a age-old question. if you look at midterm elections, we have lots of parties who have gained 30, 40 seats. it's like a miracle when bill clinton and the democrats got five seats in 1998. oh, my god! put him on mt. rushmore. at a certain level, it's sort of unfair. it's also very tantalizing for democrats to look at the results in 2012, to look at the demographic trajectory of the country to say this is a country that's becoming less and less white, mil...

Thwarting the president for the fun of it -- it is fun for them -- but it's also about blocking his agenda and making this generation that's coming up in this era very cynical about government. and you're seeing that there's also that recent poll that showed they are -- they are losing hope. they are worried that things can't change. you know, they may not entirely understand why. and they certainly blame the republicans more than they blame obama, but they blame both parties. and so i have a little bit of fear about the lesson of this gridlocked second term if that's the way it turns out. >> ...

And the obama agenda has largely been stalled since then. and that's what we're living with right now. so the real question for this coalition -- i mean, there are two questions. will it ever show up again? secondly, will it show up in those midterm elections when the legislative branch is chosen? >> probably not. i mean, history shows that they haven't shown up. you had women in 2010 pretty much reverse course, and they backed obama greatly in 2008, backed republicans to a greater extent in 2010. they haven't been able to figure that out. you had the obama coalition -- or the obama supporters...