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Take the u.s. seriously, does it seem congruent, the messaging that the u.s. has on russia as it pertains to syria versus the u.s. opinion or actions from the trump administration on russia when it comes to the u.s. election meddling? >> fredricka, i would welcome you to one of my state department briefings any day. i'd love to have you. you can see how this administration is tough on russia. in fact, russian trolls come after me because i speak facts about russia destabilizing activities all around the world. this administration has been talk. some don't like to see it. some choose to ignore ...

In terms of how the money flows. they're not getting too specific. whether this was, say, ties to syria versus election meddling. >> all right. good clarification. appreciate it. sarah sanders just said that right now i have no personnel announcements. right now. could the president's jet flying motorcade riding, low rent paying epa chief possibly who know any longer? stay with us.

We do not match the resources required to achieve the objectives. if our objectives are to get rid of assad and have a unified syria that all syrians can live in peacefully, then it's going to require a lot more than what trump or tillerson have -- >> dana: how much more? >> well, look. they said we're going to keep 2,000 troops there, right? in eastern syria. to basically keep al qaeda from coming back to support the geneva process, to preserve safe areas. >> dana: push back on iran. >> 2,000 troops? is that what's gonna do it? that's gonna get rid of assad? that's gonna create free and trans...

>> totes awkward. we are fighting a proxy war against syria and rushing now. >> bill: maybe it's a necessary discussion. >> this is the most important adversary that the united states has the most significant adversary they have had in a while. the threat that russia represents in the front of russia is just as real as possible and one of the good things that has come out of this process over the last anguishing six months is this. everyone agrees, everybody now agrees with clear eyes, russia is a bad actor, they tried to hurt us, and they tried to interfere with our election, they tried to ne...

U.s., for lebanon, and for the region. >> so very briefly, heather, it sounds like what you're saying is, part of the argument, if we do continue to take action or take any additional action, the president and the administration is going to have to really justify the difference between the kind of action we might take in egypt or syria versus south sudan and despite the fact that for most of us here at home, we're seeing violent acts and it's not clear sort of who is behind each of those acts. >> well, what you're seeing all over the region, karen, is people whose countries don't have institut...