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Evidence against all of these people gathering together and committing a crime. >> wolff also writes this about trump's opinion of bob mueller, jill. and then there was the president's insistent claim he could do something. i can fire him, he would say. indeed it was his -- it was another of his repetitive loops. i can fire him, i can fire him. if he thinks he can fire mueller, than what's preventing him from doing just that? >> well there are two things. one is he can't fire him. he would have to fire rosenstein. in order to do that, he would probably have to get rid of the attorney general a...

Director. that's a trump appointee who would have to say what's going to happen with the investigation now that mueller is gone. i think there's a chance maybe that the president does this but the law of unintended consequences here, the number of people who would have to disappear as a result is too significant. >> will the white house really be willing to deal with the backlash of the president if he were to go ahead and fire mueller? >> it will be a political firestorm if he did that and i think his lawyers are cautioning him against doing that and the technicality would be a beast in and o...

It, nobody does that. you do an investigation and then you make a decision. >> he's got to fire mueller. he's got to shut this down. i say to the american people right now as a formal federal agent, you are getting worked. you are being played for fools. if any more of this comes out, he's got to shut that down, they have to clean house at the top of the fbi. there is no other way. >> sean: who's going to fire him? >> he can't fire him. that's the problem. you've got to have -- sessions has got to exercise some control and appoint special counsel himself. rod rosenstein is running everything f...

You do an investigation and then you make a decision. >> he's got to fire mueller. he's got to shut this down. i say to the american people right now is a formal federal agent, you are work. you are being played for fools. if any more of this comes out, he's got to shut that down, they have to clean house at the top of the fbi. there is no other way. >> sean: who's going to fire him? >> he can't fire him. that's the problem. you've got to have sessions has got to exercise some control and appoint special counsel himself. rod rosenstein is running everything from the department of justice. >> s...

Independent country like ours that treasures or independence. we declared it. >> we may get to that point of course but there's a long way to go before we get there. >> you don't see russian involvement in picking trump? are you sure? they got a guy in parliament saying we did it. >> my point is that the mueller investigation is going to come -- presumably will come first and may come to you know some head before we get to the question. >> here's my question about jared kushner. okay. i don't like nepotism. we've all learned through centuries of history, including the papacy, you don't hire yo...