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Seems that he's saying anything that you do, europe or the united states will be considered war, will be considered aggression. is he setting the terms here? >> he's trying to set the terms, abby. there is no doubt that we are in economic warfare with russia right now, the moves we have taken are intended to punish the russian economy and punish all of the people in the russian government, that's economic warfare, full stop. of course, there will be retaliation, the question is whether or not we believe that we are continually deterring putin from attacking us. in other words, he knows if he g...

Admiral, always good to have you. what do you think of what he's saying, prepare for some big old spikes in cases? >> well, we are having a spike in cases among adults and children because of delta. the issues with school, people have to remember that children are getting the infection now from the community, and that doesn't mean you need to close schools, it means you need to identify the children who are infected, let them stay home, but with appropriate precautions as we saw in the united kingdom, the rates among children actually go down when they're in school. it's among the safest place...

I don't know what it is, but give me some historical context. presidents keeping information from those who might want or need it for political purposes as opposed to national security purposes. is there an analog somewhere? >> presidents have their secrets. we all do. >> right. >> and so i think that -- i wouldn't overreact to the fact that they were trying to keep certain things out of the broader flow, but what we've learned with the whistle-blower and arguably with what the po post is reporting, if one or two folks know about it, there's enough perhaps for people to stand up within the sys...

With the ukrainian president as well as now, according to the noshl "new york times," tripss of conversations with vladimir putin, removed to this yet more selective system. i don't know if that's akin to alexander butterfield disclosing that there was a recording, you know, that nixon had records in the white house. i don't know what it is. but give me some historical context into this sort of thing. presidents keeping information from those who might want or need it for political purposes as opposed to national security purposes. is there an analog somewhere? >> well, presidents have their s...

Kim successfully test fired a ballistic missile from a smaller submarine in 2016. a vessel which experts say could hold one nuclear tipped mils. this larger one, they say, could hold three or more. these subs give kim the ability to launch nuclear missile that's would be harder to detect in advance and analysts fear he's trying to develop a longer range submarine. >> they could potentially within the next decade develop submarines capable of moving across the pacific ocean to reach the united states. >> it comes as the new defense secretary spoke about kim's other missile threat. >> we are con...