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Sort of opposed to has been the scene with jacob zuma and we had a stand that a lot of that has been about zuma insisting on making demands that he wants the states to keep paying his legal fees even when he steps down from office has made it clear to him that if he's willing to into some kind of a people again or ten state witness he will. instead of that but not if he's going to take the route of appealing and appealing and appealing which effectively will cost of africans a lot of money and so we don't know if they reached an agreement on bet we are expecting that today they didn't see any ...

Agreement or deal that cyril has reached at zuma or take the step of recalling jacob zuma ok and what happens if zuma does not heed the and sees call for a step down what happens and he's well within his rights to do so the a.n.c. cannot remove the sitting president he has been sworn in by the constitution he can insist on staying that would force the a.n.c. to take the measures parliament where they would either have to impeach the president or table a motion of no confidence is there any way to tell what's going to happen is all up in the air and it's all up in the anybody's guess really is ...

Awe-inspiring place. l 3 ceo is there as well. michael, very good to have you. all of this comes at a time, the tax cuts and then the budget stuff and then we're going to be hearing tax that they want a free spending level and john mckeane and others want to increase that and others say if you increase that, increase defense spending. your thoughts. >> it's encouraging even now because some of the discussion has been, one, the sequester caps have yet to be raised and we really can't increase our defense spending beyond those caps and the law. here we are in december already and those caps have...

Schwarzenegger's groping them. that's one of the things that's so painful about this moment and that i worry about with the weinstein outrage. you and i sat at this table a year ago. there was outrage about what donald trump did. kelly oxford had that twitter hashtag where women named their first sexual assault or sexual abuses that they experienced. there was tremendous outrage. it was a traumatic event. a male senator told me he had no idea his wife had been harassed or groped. we had what should have been the educational moment of mass reaction. >> great point. >> and we had an opportunity ...

>> it reminds me of a story that i believe was in pro publica who spoke about arnold schwarzenegger's groping them. that's one of the things that's so painful about this moment and that i worry about with the weinstein outrage. you and i sat at this table a year ago. there was outrage about what donald trump did. kelly oxford had that twitter hashtag where women named their first sexual assault or sexual abuses that they experienced. there was tremendous outrage. it was a traumatic event. a male senator told me he had no idea his wife had been harassed or groped. we had what should have been t...