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And trying to leverage trump's unpredictability. it's sort of the same tactic they used in foreign policy and trade negotiations with china mexico and canada, but where this goes, you know, it's still an open question. >> and somebody else at the table help and i know you're in the middle of that and you have to keep a strong public face and they keep saying they're winning. with the caucus they're winning and the anti-immigration hardliner, he's winning and he's the president. if you look at the new cbs poll, is the border wall worth the government shutdown or not? yes worth it? 28%, not wort...

And i look at the russians and say them, they see everything from the prism of america being the main enemy. >> what was the calculation or was there one? was the calculation that, oh, well, this will bring the americans in? set up a two-siding in? a proxy situation? >> what putin did in a masterful stroke was relatively limited tactical resources is insert into the conversation the dialogue about what happens in syria next. we know isil will collapse. whether assad stays or goes putin has a table help is at the big boy table. he outreaganned us, a brilliant move. >> maybe brilliant for today ...