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Around afghanistan and try to evacuate from there. so it is a very complicated diplomatic process ahead of this embassy relocated here. >> qatar is emerging as such an interesting diplomatic player in all this. the pentagon is proud about airlifting thousands of people out of afghanistan. the airlift came at a cost. 13 service members killed in at tack at the aurpt last week. hundreds of afghans injured and killed. what do we expect from the pentagon now that their people are out of harm's way in terms of an indepth after action review about how all of this withdraw operation was carried out? ...

Plan, to plan for the withdrawal from afghanistan. she said -- barbara says that as early -- as recently as just two weeks ago, defense secretary lloyd austin was asking for updated tabletop exercises to prepare for the possible evacuation. just to put a point on how seriously and how swiftly this administration wants to act, a u.s. defense official tells barbara time is of the essence. we don't have the luxury of time to wait. >> they certainly don't have that luxury. all right, arlette saenz, thank you so much for that report. i want to bring in u.s. retired air force colonel cedric leighton...

Somehow in bed with the pharmaceutical company? >> because they are. the hand is reaching into our pockets. >> uncanny. dr. sanjay gupta is here. by the way, he has a new book out in october called "world war c: lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." that is a book -- you know i don't hock product. i love sanjay gupta. that's the least of it. you to read the book. we didn't learn anything. you look better now than in the movie. the hair may be a little different on the cheek, but we'll talk about that another time. when you look back at where we were in 2011, ...

I love sanjay gupta. that's the least of it. you to read the book. we didn't learn anything. you look better now than in the movie. the hair may be a little different on the cheek, but we'll talk about that another time. when you look back at where we were in 2011, how do you explain how we weren't ready for this? >> well, it's a tough reckoning, chris, because as you point out, i mean, you can look to art. you can look to these various tabletop exercises, all sorts of clues and warnings, and even well laid out plans in terms of how to handle a pandemic. and most of that just didn't happen whe...

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