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Friday where you are quoted assaying when it comes to tire tyrannical regimes we should encourage nonviolent resistance. do you think that could work against someone like qaddafi? >> it worked in egypt and tunisia and bahrain even though there has been violence there, they are coursing through the streets of bahrain right now in terms of rejecting their government. all over the world you see people trying to bring about change without violence. now, this group in libya took up arms. we don't know where they got their arms. we should find out. and they proceeded to move in a violent way. you kn...

Assaying when it comes to tire tyrannical regimes we should encourage nonviolent resistance. do you think that could work against someone like qaddafi? >> it worked in egypt and tunisia and bahrain even though there has been violence there, they are coursing through the streets of bahrain right now in terms of rejecting their government. all over the world you see people trying to bring about change without violence. now, this group in libya took up arms. we don't know where they got their arms. we should find out. and they proceeded to move in a violent way. you know, that -- if we start enco...

And called him a mad dog in '86. and the bombing in berlin, what do we have to do to convince the world when we bark that we mean it? >> well, before bin laden there was qaddafi quite frankly. not an islamist type terrorist but one of the original terrorist king pens during the 1980s. an important thing to remember here, judge is, a failed state like a yemen and somalia, al-qaeda sees this and it is like a magnet and they can't resit. they have vast desert regions. >> judge jeanine: perfect for training. >> as i said, al-qaeda's branch, they are branching into libya. they have gotten ahold of ...

Has a strong presence in that these countries and already we are hearing that al-qaeda fighters from the countries have entered libya. >> judge jeanine: the ledges are not necessarily -- the rebels are not necessarily libyan. being brought in other parts. >> and the in flux of foreign fighters because al-qaeda and other like minded extremists saying come to jihad and get this here. you correctly pointed out that the calculus was done by the current administration without really paying any attention to most of this and just decided hey, anything other than qaddafi is better without knowing what...

Into iraq. >> judge jeanine: this country made the decision that we are go against qaddafi, kind of, maybe, but we are going to be with these guys who have a lot of al-qaeda there. eric, what can you tell us about the rebels? you have interviewed some, i understand. >> i interviewed a former top commander for the libyan islamic fighting group. >> judge jeanine: the game group. >> he lives in london now. these guys are aligned as mike said with al-qaeda. this is a guy, this man i interviewed last year who was literally on the ground in a meeting with bin laden one year before 9/11. he was summo...