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Reagan intermediated. the final real agreement in '87. it was ratified in '88 and took three years to get rid of all those weapons. in libya, today, we got december of 2003, we got their commitment to denuclearize. we did not finish all of the chemical weapons until 2016. it takes time. we want to think any kind of a timetable that will be putting together is a good sign? i don't want you to get too far down the politics of the soul, but you cannot ignore the fact that one political party absolutely thinks that the president would not get this done. but, a timetable, what it is it indicative o...

They have a reasonable understanding of the nuclear program, but needs to work with north korea through these discussions to have a full understanding of what they have. >> harris: thank you very much. let us bring in robert charles, former navy intelligence officer and attorney. great to see you as always, robert. first of all, with this, you know, mike pompeo getting ready to have the second round, the president -- further round, the president having a second round of the september, you make of it? >> i believe people need to be realistic about this. good things take time. i have heard john ...

Assad's capability to strike at his people with chemical weapons it dents the narrative there's a global war going on against islamists by americans. that is crucial. [ overlapping speakers ] >> that's an overwhelmingly naive thing to say. i'm not saying he's not a muslim. try to make that case to the overwhelming majority of the syrian people. >> shia. doesn't it depend who you're making the argument to? the soon is in or the alowites or the christians? >> the main gripe with assad began because he was a dictator who tortured. >> why do the christians now fear the opposition more than assad? ...

Try to make that case to the overwhelming majority of the syrian people. >> shia. doesn't it depend who you're making the argument to? the soon is in or the alowites or the christians? >> the main gripe with assad began because he was a dictator who tortured. >> why do the christians now fear the opposition more than assad? >> they fear the jabat faction of the opposition. >> they're right to. >> we don't use the word opposition in that generalized way. >> talk about libya, syria, egypt, there was a feeling during the arab spring that the narrative of al qaeda was fading, that the whole idea o...

>> well, first of all, i think it's important to say that wherever the president is, is where the white house is, and the idea that he can't be in control because he's in south america or some other place, i think that's poppycock. the white house is wherever the president is. you got tom donald in there, you got bill daley there, and obviously the president. at the same time, the idea of the president touring some mayan ruins, this is no time to be america's tourist, so i think the idea of cutting short the visit and having some national security meetings to get on top and further get on top ...