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not to bring ukraine into the nato family now at this moment in the middle of the war. >> ukraine now promises it will not use the american supplied cluster munitions in russia. it comes as the controversial weapons divided congress. >> they want these as self-defense to use against russians in their own country of ukraine. i don't see anything wrong with the, these weapons would be a game-changer. >> cluster bombs should never be used. that is crossing a line. we would risk losing our moral leadership. >> also new today, treasury secretary janet yellen returns from china after a wee...

Committee. welcome back to the broadcast. let's talk ammunition bombs. nearly two dozen congressional democrats, barbara lee included, who we just heard from, urging the president not to send them to ukraine for concerns about civilians. t not to send ukraine's defenses the weapons are not going to be used in russia nor in urban areas. where do you stand on this? send them or don't send them? >> alex, i say to get those cluster munitions over to the ukraine as quickly as well as -able. the russians are already using these cluster munitions. they've use them at about ten out of the 24 regions i...