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Our secrets to anyone. so for me to come out and say what i'm saying to you is tantamount to career suicide. okay. >> i'm gonna get blacklisted because of this, but i don't care i tried when in 2016, i tweeted two people to go and look for these tapes. >> i know that they existed because we recorded those meeting. we recorded that moment there. it's somewhere on a tape on a file i'm i'm. here to tell you that. doesn't matter. i have five emmy awards for producers guild nominations. none of that matters. i will lose my career if i break an nda or come forward with how this stuff gets done, righ...

If donald trump testifies these issues which go to his credibility, which go to his prior bad acts on cross-examination, as laura says, for impeachment are fair game. >> so i think the prosecution will get more than half a loaf. they'll get most of what they want, like what the access hollywood tape. they didn't get the tape itself, but they've got the transcript of the tape. they can talk about it so i expect that the sand vol ruling will favor the people will favor district attorney alvin bragg and his team. yeah. interesting. jim. >> this all centers around trump's insistence i'm testifying...

Very evenhanded and very fair. but the law of new york is that if donald trump testifies these issues which go to his credibility, which go to his prior bad acts on cross-examination, as laura says, for impeachment are fair game okay so i think the prosecution will get more than half a loaf. they'll get most of what they want, like what the access hollywood tape they didn't get the tape itself, but they got the transcript of the tape. they can talk about it. so i expect that the sandoval ruling will favor the people will favor district attorney alvin bragg his team. >> yeah. interesting, jim. ...

No reason for me to hear the tape. >> okay, this is a pretty basic and important thing. does the united states of america have a copy of the tape or not? >> yes, well, it appears that i'm taking these folks at their word, that what we have is a transcript of the tape rather than a tape itself. >> so the president misspoke? >> i couldn't quite catch the president's words. >> the president said, quote, we have the tape. i don't to hear the tape. >> oh. well, my understanding is we have a transcript. >> okay. >> but not the tape itself. >> so, gina haspel, then, is the only person, as we are awar...

That's the case of the former playboy model who alleged an affair and the enquirer bought her story, sat on it. mr. cohen says it was at mr. trump's direction. in fact, this tape itself, you hear them. it's all the stuff, all the stuff. >> you are reporting to add some important context. the recording of them discussing those payments. when you hear them talk about all the stuff, is it possible that they are talking about everything the "national enquirer" had? >> that's as we understood it. what do they have? we heard about the safe, which has captured the public's imagination. whether everyt...