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Think time i'm on the phone with a foreign leader, many, many people are on the line. sometimes they're taping calls. sometimes they're doing a stenographer. but i also assume many people are on the line from the other side. if i'm speaking to a country, they also have people on the line. so who would say a thing like what you're saying. now, i will say this, i said absolutely nothing wrong. >> that was president trump just moments ago. tim o'brien is the executive editor of bloomberg opinion, msnbc contributor. former chair of the national bar association and former chairman of the democratic...

I don't assume i'm talking to the leader. any time i'm on the phone with a foreign leader, many, many people are on the line. sometimes they are taping calls. sometimes they're doing the stenograph stenographer. but i also assume many people are on the line from the other side. so if i'm speaking to a country, they also have people on the line. so who would say a thing like what you're saying? now, i will say this, i said absolutely nothing wrong. it was perfect. listen to me. listen to me. listen -- >> [inaudible question]. >> listen to me. >> [inaudible question]. >> listen to me. i assume m...

That as long as one person, in this case donald trump, agrees to the taping that it can be taped. some states require both parties to know and to allow for the taping in which case it would then become illegal if donald trump is having phone calls across state lines into states that would require every party being notified and that -- and if he's actually taping them. he does have a very long history of taping calls back when he was a ceo of his own corporation, his private secretaries talked often about how they would transcribe calls, tape calls, and he has also had a long history, a fascina...