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Martha: a really cool story, a mystery under the sea. scientists discovering not one, not two, but three sunken ships loaded with treasures of historic interest right off the coast of texas. these wrecks are believed to be some 200 years old dating back to when texas was fighting for its independence from mexico. joining me now on the phone is jim delgado, director of noaa's maritime program, good to have you here, what'd you find? >> thank you. the three shipwrecks date to the first part of the 19th century, an age in which texas is struggling for independence as mexico. the united states is ...

Texas, right? why do they think that? >> well, what the supreme court decision in june did was to remove texas from the preapproval process whenever we have any kind of changes in our voting laws. and that's not what the obama administration wants. they want to keep their thumb on the texas election system so they are now asking a court to give the obama administration the authority to be able to preapprove whatever election changes we may have, especially our voter id law that we're trying to put into effect. martha: all right. and explain to everybody exactly how that law would change the vo...

What's your next move as attorney general of texas? >> i'll be defending in court in san antonio. i think the facts and law are clearly on our side. if we do not prevail, we'll go right back to the united states supreme court where we have won the last three voting rights cases against the obama administration over the past couple of years. martha: all right. fascinating plight ahead on both sides. attorney general greg abbott, thank you very much for being with us today, sir. we'll keep watching it. >> thank you, martha. cel. kelly: well, anthony weiner may be digging an even bigger hole for ...

He's asking a court to force the state to get federal permission before they can make any changes to voting or election laws in their state. now, the move is seen by create ings as a way to get around a recent supreme court ruling that wiped out part of the voting rights act. watch this. >> today i am announcing that the justice department will ask a federal court in texas to subject the state of texas to a preclearance regime similar to the one required by section 5 of the voting rights act. [applause] martha: very interesting. i'm joined now by greg abbott, the texas attorney general, he's a...

Were caught in the same storm, that they sank quickly and violently, that they had trade goods in them that came from all over the world, but particularly we could see that one of the ships at least had called in yucatan, mexico, because there were very distinctive jars that came from only one town in the yucatan. martha: fascinating. and what role do you -- what does it tell you in terms of shedding light on what was happening in texas and the fight for independence and, you know, i know that there's -- you're not really sure, from what i read, whether or not the larger ship was basically had...