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You would bifurcate the complaint and handle the one as improper governmental activities and the other parts a sunshine violation. But i just want to be sure that people have enough information to go on the sunshine complaint, but you wouldnt necessarily reveal who the underlying complainant was. You would necessarily have to reveal who the respondent was. Its an interesting point. Sorry. I wonder what the staff thinks on that . Because the staff cant initiate a complaint either on its own awareness or it can say we heard about it from x, but were going to erase x and issue a complaint . First...

Were talking about. Okay. Anyway, it could possibly go there. Somewhere in that range. I think on the chapter 2 question, i would probably not change the burden. I think the standard of proof and burden to be kind of makes sense. That is what the whole basis of the chapter 2 versus 3 thing was. I think i would be better with three positive votes needed to make a finding that there was a violation. So even if it requires three votes to find a violation, you can still hold the person to the burden, if they didnt meet their burden, then you go the other way. Although it does play out in the same ...

Numbers of women that are served or end the violent homicides or reduce the number of Domestic Violence cases or increase the number of women that serve on our commissions and our departments. Its working in the community constantly having that as our forefront, building strong communities. Again, thank you very much and congratulations to all the honorees. Thank you very much. applause . [ gavel ] good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. Al...

The regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. good evening dale pillpa, just wanted to comment and perhaps inquire on the election season that has just concluded. I assume that the staff will be analyzing the effectiveness of the matching the Public Finance program and perhaps c...

[ gavel ] good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. good evening dale pillpa, just wanted to comment and perhaps inquire on the election season that has just concluded. I assume that the staff will be analyzing the effectiveness of the matching th...