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The campaign. And for example, the public finance, candidates they have even more obligations and so we have to be sure that these folks know what they are, and but it is that syndrome that i just described that contributes a lot to this. Understandable. And the other thing that i would say and what is the number, and it is 9,000 that the staff is recommended and the 9,000 penalty, is that right. Yes. And if you will allow me to try to add a rationale to a number. And in our last ruling there was 10,000 and we got to 2,000 and we somehow talked ourselves through that that we got there. And we ...

Tenderloin market area and i believe we would be wellserved to have johns voice on the cac. Thank you. Hello, my name is greg and im a clinical social worker working in the city for west Side Community services and in that capacity for the last 2. 5 years i know john. I think john was pretty nervous today and i think the setting has something to do with that. But more than that, i think it really talks to his humility. You can see from his qualifications he is a highlyskillful person in many facets. But more than that, i think johns greatest gifts are his empathy and his regard for others, and...

When asking questions, robs name always comes up. And i can just only speak about my love for the city and the importance of being able to be an inclusive city, where people of all different backgrounds, socioeconomic and ethnic backgrounds can be together and share in the good fortune of this city. And over the years i have been able to see rob navigate a lot of difficult situations and he is also someone who has compassion and dignity and treats his kids, our kids, i like to refer to them as our kids, im a mom of three teenagers and in the event that something catastrophic would happen to a ...

Behalf of candidates, that run and are not elected that they go through all of the rig ors of the candidate and all of the difficulties of understanding the myriad of laws and, we finally frequently just dont want it deal with that process, any more. They would like to just sort of shut it down and walk away from it and unfortunately, they cant do that, there is obligations that they encure to themself and there is a certain frustration level because people dont really how complicated it can be to run for office when they initiate these effort and so unfortunately, you know, in situations like...

Unfortunately, you know, in situations like these, really, are too bad, because if we could have worked with this person, and maybe, there would be one count here in stead of six and possibly none, if they had paid off their debt and cleared out their bank, before that first filing deadline that they missed, you know, we take it retroactively terminate and that would have been the end of it but those obligations do exist and we are pretty clear in the training that the election day is not the end of the campaign. And for example, the public finance, candidates they have even more obligations a...