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Eel in a bucket of vaseline. >> and that's praise. she's completely disingenuous. she works for me, and she owes the taxpayers who pay her salary an honest answer. and the honest answer is they withheld the funds from ukraine in order to get political advantage. that's a crime. if they want to say that's not impeachable, that's fine. many of them decided it was an affair. it doesn't raise to the level of a consensual adult affair, but it's extortion with our taxpayer money and our national security. >> and let's go backwards. if all of this was okay and quid pro quo is something that happens a...

Saying what we see right now is not normal and we want change in the white house versus let's just blow everything up. so the loudest voices in the room in terms of rallies and messaging don't necessarily reflect what americans specifically in those battleground states want right now. and what they're not saying, and what they haven't been saying, up until elizabeth warren started talking and bernie sanders were talking about revolutionizing health care, was medicare for all. we saw what happened in 2018. we saw that republicans got really hammered, because democrats said, you're not taking aw...

Leverage over president zelensky's head until he investigates the biden's relationship with burisma and what have you and any of that corruption. what would have republicans have said? there's a reason this happened behind closed doors. there's a reason that transcript was moved over into a secret server. so for them to now say, three weeks later, four weeks later, that, oh, okay, we're okay with it, it's a clear indication that their back is against the wall and this is their last way out here. >> that's a good litmus test. i mean, if you put it through that lens, obviously, and the lens of w...

Look at the polls. you know, it's clear, alisyn, that biden, obviously, is barely leading the race, but the fact that biden's up there, he's actually run a terrible campaign so far. he hasn't had one good debate. the fact that 30-plus, sort of democrats are with him shows you how starved they are for an alternative in the center. and we know that there are republicans who will fire, trump, too, but you've got to have a candidate who can harvest those feelings right now, no one is there. >> one of the interesting discussions that hasn't happened yet with some of the republicans who seem to be w...

Used, can be found in the very thing the president wanted to have a fireside chat reading about, just last week. and so, it's odd to me that he would want to do that. especially given the fact that you have this protection that says, you need not be the person who testify when you have fact witnesses who were in the room, including people like lieutenant colonel just last week, who said, not only was i in the room, i was on the call. and i reported it to the attorneys who should have done something about it. >> laura, jeffrey, thank you very much for all of the legal expertise that you provide...