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Wow. that's about 10 people in the room here at the most. >> what it is that stops people -- well, we know that the unemployment rate dropped about two points in that county since trump came in. i don't know if he had anything to do with it, but the economy has helped. we know you make an extra buck an hour there, about 28 bucks as opposed to 27 bucks an hour. some modest improvement in people's salaries, very modest, 4%. but only 10 people said improvement in their lives. >> well, from the tax cut, right. and i think you can't necessarily connect lowered unemployment rate to the tax cut. >> y...

Family, and it -- i mean, you know, i looked around, and my other morehouse brothers, i said, wow, like, he really just boosted our credit scores and put us in a whole other tax bracket and we can go eat organic food instead of having to eat peanut birth and jelly so he changed our lives. he changed a generation of wealth right there just off a couple of words. >> oh, my gosh. i love this so much. real quickly. what are you going to do now? >> so, now i'm still celebrating. i'm still in shock. i have to get -- i have to figure out a way to give back and be able to give my time back to the inst...

And in the next tax bracket, we've all heard those stories, but this is such an elaborate scheme and we wonder how that works. let's ask that question. tom, let me start with you, william singer, this is the guy mika was just describing at the top of the chain here, a college counselor, a for-profit company he runs. college prep gets you ready for the s.a.t., things like that. how does it work? walk us from him to the colleges themselves. >> there's a couple different tiers and couple different ways they did it. the first way, look, we have coaches we're actually bribing. a tennis coach on the...

Dug down on, but i think the process by which we get to that -- those different levels of tax rate are going to be critically important. i don't think there's any question that, you know, what's been going on for the last several decades that the structure of capitalism in the united states has slowly but consistently been working against the middle class and for poor people. you look at both in terms of their security and in terms of their opportunity, they're not getting a fair shake at creating their version of the american dream, so clearly part of the tradition of america is those that ha...

Tighten up the entire system and how do we make sure what we are taxing, we're getting the maximum benefit for that? one place i put out as an example is payroll taxes, right, where we're actually penalizing small businesses from hiring new people. somehow we have to figure out some way to replace that money because, again, i don't, you know, we can't willy-nilly go around cutting taxes, but we're certainly in some cases taxing -- taxing the small businesses and the different enterprises in a way that makes it harder for them to employ people. >> the -- with the top tax bracket at $500,000, th...