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Those folks have a tax credit and it's the moms and the pops -- >> should those folks have a tax credit or should people like you and may have to pay taxes on their health insurance benefits? on. >> if part of our society have a tax benefit for a tax coverage, then i'm of the belief and the president is of the belief that it needs to be fair for everybody. we -- that's why you have to have a tax credit. >> that's why you want to have a tax credit, but you're not going to of get the revenue from upper income folks who get generous tax benefits from their company? >> that's another system that's...

Contrast. people who are fortunate product of the american dream, who as erin says, are taken aback about their success and are pretty darn gracious about it most of the time. >> he is working student now, people in their 20s. and people are still in school. which of them will vote for romney? it seems to me the only ones that would naturally be driven to someone like him would be the b school people. some of the kids in business school who can't wait to go out and make money and equity and wall street as fast as they can, no matter how they make it. and say, i want to be like him. that would ...

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