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They know they have to give a little bit. for the first time we're talking about raising revenue inside washington. >> mika, i'm going to look like the quote. >> take a look at this, on the sunday talk shows, they were still talking about, you know, just really almost on completely different planets. here's kevin mccarthy and senator dick durbin. take a listen. >> the president wants the rates to go up. that doesn't solve the problem, and we don't want to be back here in another year, in another ten years answering the same questions. if the president's asking for higher rates, he's asking for...

Problem. we don't want to be back here in another year, another ten years answering the same question, but the president's asking for higher rates. he's asking for more revenue. most economists agree the best way to get that is through closing special loopholes. you know what, when you close them, it makes a fair tax process. >> i can tell you i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it, but we need to solve the problem. we cannot allow the reckless position drive this economy into another recession, a recession the republicans will own. >> a white house aid says they have kept ...

Problem and we don't want to be back here in another year or 10 years answering the same question. but right after the election, we sent a plan to the president where we gave revenues but looking for spending cuts. and he took three weeks to come back to us. he has gone on still on the campaign trail, still working through. but you have to understand, republicans have not waited to solve this problem and sat back. in the summer, we passed a bill that froze the rates, and passed it. it sat in the senate. we believe we want to solve this problem. we think this is our moment. this is our time. >>...

>> i don't know, i don't know. i don't agree that obama is creating class warfare here, i think he is talking about income equality. i think it's difficult to get a message about class inequality from mitt romney. we saw how uncomfortable he was over the bain stuff and this seems like, not quick sand, but dangerous territory. >> i disagree with your first assertion, when this president and people that work for him come out with their ways to balance the budget they go straight to economic policies and tax policies and use the language of class warfare to get it done. >> what is it? >> i'll nev...

Gains taxes and taxes on social security benefits. a goal of balancing the federal budget by the year 2020. joining us now from columbia, south carolina is governor perry. so, how much would the feds lose in revenue under your plan, governor? >> well, i don't really worry about what the feds are going to lose. what i'm worried about is getting people back to work in this country. the fact of the matter is the spending problem is what we have got in this country. i'm looking at a tax process that will allow people to keep more of their money because we know what happens when job creators get to...