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That walker is clearly at the center of this network. we have a document we've kind of put together all his te niles of knowledge of this secret e-mail network. you know, we knew after this john doe investigation and after the indictments of his staff that there definitely were these laptops that people had private e-mails and that they were doing campaign work on the taxpayers time, which is illegal in wisconsin. but walker has said repeatedly he had nothing to do with it. if you look at the e-mails and the totality of them, it's a very clear picture. walker was a micromanager. he mixed toget...

The last four years of not just his time, but our time, too. taxpayers time. members of congress' time. with a big he knew that was clearly unconstitutional. i think it's a real conundrum for the president. embarrassing what he had to do. the court did smack them back and say we are a separate branch, don't mess with us. i do predict the demagoguing of the court if the mandate is struck down will go on and on. i said this the other day. i can hear it already. the only thing standing between universal and the american people are a few bush appointees. >> bob: first, keep this clear. it wasn't t...