can see uiltered fault lines and differences between the candidates. that s something it feels like a lot of people might agree to. the big issue is that traditionally the commission does not negotiate with the parties. they negotiate with the candidates. another interesting open question is if you read the tea leaves a little bit donald trump is someone who does not necessarily if he runs again want to debate. he doesn t like doing debate prep, it s not really an area of strength for him. but they want all the republican candidates to pledge to no more debates. you can see a world in which if the candidate is not donald trump, for instance, mitt romney came out and talked about the importance of debates, a mitt romney, a chris christie, a republican candidate who thinks they can do well against biden, think debates are they are strength, it s not totally monolithic even within the party necessarily. ashley and matthew, thank you for joining us. we have money, power, politics o