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Say. he was given to conspiracy theories and blowing things up out of all proportion. >> he and litvinenko used to both work for the fsb. both served time in jail. it was a bond between them. litvinenko opened a security consulting firm. he says he and litvinenko met several times in london to discuss doing business there together including that now infamous meeting in the pine bar where scotland yard says litvinenko was poisoned. he says the meeting was no big deal. >> what do you remember about sitting there at the table? >> translator: i remember that we talked with litvinenko about nothing...

What concern me. >> senator, we had governor johnson of new hampshire yesterday who basically said blah, blah, blah, all this is a tempest in a tea pot. until you have the proof, shut up about it. the fbi has not been able to prove collusion. >> those investigations need to move forward independently and aggressively. number one, the special prosecutor is pursuing hopefully, i have no insigside information, hopefully the meddling by the russians in the election and also trump collusion during the campaign. those have to be pursued. >> how do you prove collusion? >> there are a number of issues...

On capitol hill. multiple investigations going on. they want a special prosecutor right now. i assume in that event, people are going to exchange notes. i'm told in washington it doesn't work that way. where do you this this is going as far as drama is concerned, whether you like it or not? sometimes these things take a life of their own. >> the media will try to whip up drama. that's how they make money and pay their bills, whipping up drama. i don't think there's any real drama here. i don't think they'll ever find any serious russian interference of the election. it will go away. i don't th...

Moving the -- who gets cross subsidized by what 5%, what $8 billion will cover the people that fall out. that's a tempest in the tea pot against a larger issue that none of us feel a lot of power or connection to the system. >> we understand the intent. take me to reality, do you believe -- what do you believe is going to happen here? you're in the industry and have to make these predictions. >> i have to make these predictions. i think everybody will get on athenanet -- >> stop. let's go. >> i believe if we get through the current sort of kerfuffle and settle down, it's inevitable regardless ...

>> have you or the team or president-elect trump reached out to the chinese government since this bubbled up? >> not to my knowledge. >> should we expect a call this week to calm the waters? >> chuck, i wouldn't -- you know, i wouldn't expect so. to be honest with you, the ters here seem like a little bit of a tempest in a tea pot. it's striking that president obama would reach out to a murdering dictator in cuba and be hailed as a hero and president-elect trump takes a courtesy call from a democratically elected president of taiwan and it becomes something of a thing in the media. i think mos...