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And teach lapd for a week then boise, idahos, i told my partner, we have down time, let's do something productive. i said let's talk to experts inom prison. i want to interview violent afonders and learn from them, i had no idea this would morph to a program. >> our prison visits sooned to an official research project, there was no short shortage of cases to focus on. in 1970s and 80, america was plagued by some of the worst serial offenders, the son of sam, the coed killer and john wayne gacy, possible inspiration for penny wise in stephen king a it, he killed 33 young men and buried them in ...

But after he was convicted, he said he didn't do it. the challenge in profiling gacy is that he's a perpetual liar, but i was determined to get to the truth because that's what i do. i am the real mindhunter and the stories i'm about to tell you are all fact, no fiction. let me just tell you about myself. i joined the fbi in 1970. i was a sniper on the swat team. i then became a hotshot negotiator. i was recruited by the behavioral science unit. behavioral science is psychology. it's really learning to walk in the shoes of the subject and the offender when you're analyzing a case. but before i...