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>> you guys want to win the nomination here. and there's $15 million that governor perry is going to start throwing at governor romney. so what's the distinction? >> i think the bottom line is republicans are watching these debates, the country is watching this unfold, and they're looking at mitt romney and they're saying that's a person who can be president and do the job. >> there's actually governor christie who endorsed mitt romney seemed to have quite a slap at rick perry when he endorsed him this week. i want to play that. >> the biggest reason why i want to support governor romney is be...

>> let's talk about governor perry. you've endorsed him. he came into this campaign with great expectations, and we've seen a pretty stunning fall in the polls. the debate performances have not helped. his own wife anita perry spoke this week about how difficult it's been. >> we've been brutalized, and beaten up and chewed up in the press. >> and she went on to say, brutalized by gop rivals. what's gone wrong here for him? >> well, a couple things. presidential campaigns are tough. the good thing is i know rick and anita well. i know they're up to this. that he's been governor of texas for nea...

Evangelical christians. >> has governor perry satisfactorily distanced himself from this pastor in governor romney's mind? >> well, in my view, david, it's disappointing that governor perry and others didn't denounce pastor jeffress and those comments more directly. we have a country where we don't have prohibitions on a particular church attendance for public office. in fact it's prohibited in the u.s. constitution. and if the measure is what kind of person are you, when you look at mitt romney and how he conducts himself as a loving husband, as a loving grandfather, as somebody who is comple...

Harm's way immediately. we called for help. literally the air space was about to be closed. the first seven planes that came came from the texas air national guard. rick perry has made tough decisions in crises. he's made emergency, he's made executive level decisions. i know it's hard. he is a leader. we now have a president who is a great speaker. we don't need just a great debater, a great speaker. we need somebody with executive branch experience, rick perry's got that. >> there's got to be some reason to explain his inability to get this message out that governor jindal's talking about. h...

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