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Challenge to china. in the absence of that, china's hand has been strengthened, and the president is sort of kicking about in -- without a plan, without a strategy in this way. doing i think damage to our economy but failing really to pursue a strategic end. and that -- that is the problem. >> a great discussion this afternoon. thank you both for your time. howard dean and evan mcmullen on this saturday. thank you. ahead, saving face. major changes coming to facebook as the founder of the social network prepares for tough questions on capitol hill. will the new measures be enough to salvage ...

Stronger court case than he did. >> it's interesting because this is one of the stories where people just -- people aren't letting it go. >> well, i mean, it's -- a story that captivated the world when bill clinton had a dalliance, and this is far more outrageous in many ways. >> fair enough. evan, i want to shift gears and talk about scott pruitt with the epa. he still has his job despite ethics and spending issues. in your opinion, what's behind his sticking power, if you will? >> pruitt is well connected politically and has done the hard work, the unpopular work that the president wants him...

They must end unfair trade, take down barriers, and charge reciprocal tariffs. the u.s. is losing $500 billion a year and has been losing billions of dollars for decades. cannot continue." obviously in this moment he's still tweet being it. what do you make of that? >> look -- >> i would -- >> sorry, the last two years have been two completely different presidencies. in 2017, he was surrounding himself with ex-pats, a law tweeted by the chamber of commerce, and was tweeting every day that the stock market went up. this year, gary cohn leaves, he starts acting like a 19th century whig party l...

Where did the russians come in, do the russians own debt for the president, what role has michael cohen played in those finances. that's why this is significant, and that's why both cohen and the president should be very concerned about it. >> a lot of food for thought this afternoon. good information. thank you for your time. >> thank you. ahead, taking twitter by storm. the attorney for porn star stormy daniels takes a page from the president teasing a major announcement. find out why he's throwing around the word "thug." dear foremothers,

On the one hand, president trump has essentially said i can't have my wall made of bricks, i can't have my wall made of concrete, i can't have my wall made of electronics. i'll have a wall made of people. i'll have people guarding the border. but the important point to look at here is the fact that because of macro economic conditions and because of other conditions regarding the state of the mexican economy, we have a situation where there-minute drive as many people try -- there aren't as many people trying to come in as there used to be. there's less crimes being committed in the first plac...