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As they negotiate for an interview and the parameters of an interview, i think mueller is saying, look, we don't have the goods yet. you're just a subject. you're not a criminal target, and i think it's an attempt to have the president raise the comfort level and get him to sit down. >> i'm going to squeeze in a question. mcclampy reports that -- mcclatchy reports that they're looking at business deals michael cohen was involved in for trump organization. how hifth significant is this? >> other networks are saying this is beyond the scope of mueller's inquiry, he's -- not only is he looking at...

President's thugs," details, accusations of similar behavior over the years. looking at that tweet, it seems like avenatti comes just short of calling president trump a thug. what are your thoughts on all of this? >> well, i would actually push back on the idea that the "60 minutes" interview was a fizzle. i mean, maybe if this was a reality tv show, but this is all extraordinarily serious for all the tawdry details. one of the things that was revealed in that "60 minutes" interview was precisely this threat. so i understand having spoken a lot to michael avenatti, he's extraordinarily coy, ex...

Southern border to stop illegal border crossings and drug trafficking. you've got texas deploying 250 guardsmen, arizona says it's sending another 150. new mexico is on board, as well. but those three states are all led by republican governors. california, the big blue state which really is at the forefront of the anti-trump resistance movement, california hasn't made a decision yet. and the president's critics say this latest immigration push is in many ways a solution that's looking for a problem. that the picture he paints of crime and people overrunning the border is a manufactured crisis ...

Attention. so in a way it's able to cut, you know, the brilliance, the dark brilliance of trump is that he does so many terrible things that not one of them really stands out. i think michael avenatti is calling his bluff as it were or is able to cut through all the noise. and this one is standing out. it's becoming almost a symbol for all of the other corrupt ways that trump has managed his business empire. >> it's interesting you mention that. we're going to talk about that later this hour. i have to leave it for now. thank you for your time. >> thanks. let's turn now to the u.s.-mexico bo...

Nondisclosure agreement void, but it also heightens the possibility that the president could be forced to sit for a deposition about all of this. >> never a dull moment. we'll have to see what happens in the days ahead. great reporting. jeff bennett at the white house, thank you. as scott pruittnationsed a -- pruitt has faced a growing list of ethics questions, his support in the white house has seemed to strengthen by the day. >> i can't speak to the future of scott pruitt, i can just talk about where we are now. the white house is aware of these reports. we're obviously looking into those....