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Typically work in government contracting. so i think we need to do more to bring some of those people over. >> was there a point where you all realized you turned it around? because it was an open question. you come in and you think this thing might just not work. it might actually need to be scrapped, right? that was a real possibility at some point? >> actually, i don't think we really thought that was an option. we saw a technology problem, and technology problems as my friend mikey dickerson would say can be fixed. the real challenge was the human problem. could we get this disparate group...

Martha: thank you. the mess with healthcare.gov started on october the first. the site went live and immediately technology problems in heavy traffic and suit. the white house said it was all a glitch, but added there is no excuse to the problems and they were ready to get to work to fix them. the president announced the text search to get out and deal with this issue. on october 30, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius apologize for the botched rollout. and then december, shown for the first month of operations the website was down more than half the time. bill: the super bow...

Of the plan suddenly are finding themselves in the hot seat for things that, you know, have to do with technology problems that were managed out of the federal bureaucracy far from their day to day lives and their offices. >> it's not just that, not just the technology. we are talking also about individuals who are losing their health plan despite president obama's -- i think we moved on from the website in some ways. >> but they intersect in such a damaging way because you've got these people whose current insurance plans are being canceled who are going to have to get new insurance and will ...

Gupta that president obama did not know about the problems until a few days into the launch. how can that be? if i was responsible of putting my boss' signature program on line and i didn't tell him there were problems and i left him in the dark, my boss would be really angry at me and maybe even fear my. >> what i would say to you, is you're absolutely right. and president obama was azamat as he could possibly be. and i would imagine that the thought processes, right or wrong was, we can fix this for the boss. the boss is focused on the government shutdown. as you well-known, it started being...

Market. in r obama care, once you get to $20,000 in income, according to the kaiser family foundation, the cost of the insurance premium, even after subsidies is about four times the fine for staying uninsured. once a person hits 25 grand in income, the premium is almost eight times the fine and 32,000, it's ten times the fine. all that without counting several thousand in deductibles. we don't know what the young will do, but we know the numbers are. >> they were saying late friday that the application functions of health care.gov will be unavailable during off peak hours this weekend for rep...