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>> my rebuttal is this. i respected george will, i consider him a friend but he's always hated george bush -- i mean he's always hated donald trump and he's hated donald trump during the election, he hates him still and there is a small wing of the republican party that is anti-trump but it's very small. if you look at the polls now within the republican party about 90% of republican voters support trump. >> not just trump, the congress that won't stand up to trump. >> that's george's point. >> no, my point is why do they support him? because he's created the best economy in 20 years and that'...

See here with you guys wanted it to happen, you knew it would happen, you knew it would send a message now you have to own it. >> what message is that? >> if you come here, we're going to do bad things to you. >> i don't agree with the policy but the message he is trying to send is that migrants from all over central and south america don't come to our border and think you're going to get easy access to our country. because we can't take everyone. >> the p is this -- >> so put them in cages? that's your policy solution is to put them in cages? >> the argument must have teeth catherine is makin...

Practice right now that doesn't a lot of sense. >> by the way, i'm not defending the process. i don't like what's happening. >> but he does, right? >> i'm just saying i think trump has made the case that illegal immigration is a big problem. >> everybody knows it's a problem. >> but i keep hearing this, though. i keep listening to cnn, he keeps hearing liberals say we care about illegal immigration but they don't want to fund the wall, they're not in favor -- >> because a wall wouldn't do anything. >> what is the policy, catherine, of liberals to stop illegal immigration? >> illegal immigratio...

Like crap, they went after obama but they didn't see it as the point of a policy perfect ed yo guys wanted it to happen, you knew it would happen, you knew it would send a message now you have to own it. >> what message is that? >> if you come here, we're going to do bad things to you. >> i don't agree with the policy but the message he is trying to send is that migrants from all over central and south america don't come to our border and think you're going to get easy access to our country. we can't take everyone. >> so put them in cages? that's your policy solution. >> and the proof is this....

The system is broken in lots of ways but ripping babies away from their mothers is not -- does not go further towards creating a system that is fairer to these people. >> here's the problem -- >> hold on, let's set the context because i need you to explain something. you're pro-immigration, that's fine. however you're defending a practice right now that doesn't make sense. >> by the way, i'm not defending it. i don't like what's happening. >> but he does, right? >> i'm just saying i think trump has made the case that illegal immigration is a big problem. >> everybody knows it's a problem. >> b...