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It wasn't his thing. he didn't come from that world. he is also -- and there are two kinds of people in the world. readers and non-readers. he has said he's not an enthusiastic reader. is this a case where this is the president he has read about or just is reading about and perhaps will go on to others if he continues leisure reading about this? >> well, you know, we are living right now in the political equivalent of climate change. it's either really cold or really holiday. there is not really a temp rat middle anymore. to continue that metaphor for a moment, president trump is essentially l...

Perhaps will go on to others if he continues leisure reading about this? >> well, you know, we are living right now in the political equivalent of climate change. it's either really cold or really holiday. there is not really a temp rat middle anymore. to continue that metaphor for a moment, president trump is essentially living in a snowstorm of information. he picks thing up here and there. sometimes they are integrated fully. sometimes he picks them up very briefly and it melts quickly. we've seen that with significant policy things. we've seen it with small passing thing. it's very clear t...

Most of the men, so far they have been just men who have come to the oval office have studied either seriously or casually the presidency and american presidents. not so donald trump. it wasn't his thing. he didn't come from that world. he is also -- and there are two kinds of people in the world. readers and non-readers. he has said he's not an enthusiastic reader. s is this a case where this is the president he has read about or just is reading about and perhaps will go on to others if he continues leisure reading about this? >> well, you know, we are living right now in the political equiva...