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The border wall? let's do that. >> so you agree with me. >> anybody else? >> neil: it's more common than they know. an openness on the part of the wall with barack obama and openness with republicans as recently as the first six months of the administration for, you know, what the. wanted to do on daca. so there's more common ground -- >> there's some common ground. the bottom line is this. the democrats know that they need immigration to remain at certain levels in order to maintain their -- keep their majority, keep the presidency. maybe become almost unbeatable in the future. the republican...

Affect -- when a shutdown drags on, do people say, all right, i hate both you guys. what do they do? >> i would say people are not enamored with washington to begin with. i think the president owns this shut down. >> neil: has he made overtures to you in visiting something like daca to at least get democrats to move? >> yeah. let me preface. i'm for border security. i don't think the deal on the table with temporary daca and temporary status is meaningful because he brought it -- >> neil: but my point is, was there enough on his part for democrats, if you were in negotiations to do something i...

When you say he made a daca offer and a tps offer, those were temporary protected status and those children that came as infants or small children by their parents, he created those problems. he created problems. now he says i'll solve them for you or temporarily or partially solve them for you. that's not negotiation. >> neil: he did say it was a mistake when he did that. now he's trying to make right with that, you could argue. could you meet with him if he said i made a mistake, we should include that. would you be open to that? >> it's moving in the right direction. he's not saying that. h...

The chamber, they still control, republicans had enough support to move forward. so they set their schedule thursday afternoon will be the day that they move forward with the president's proposal to reopen the government and a democratic proposal to reopen the government. the one that will go first, the one that was just introduced by mitch mcconnell is the one that trades border wall money for temporary protections for daca recipients brought to the country illegally as little kids. >> to reject this proposal, democrats would have to prioritize political combat with the president ahead of fed...

From statements from dick durbin and from kane when i spoke to him and from nancy pelosi in her statement. if the president wants to sign the remaining seven spending bills that would reopen the government which is par shal -- partially shut down into the fifth week, they are willing to talk about whatever he wants to talk about through the regular order and the process of the committee processes and they note the president is reportedly going to offer is a nonstarter. they're rejecting it out of hand and say it can't pass the house and senate. and that has been demonstrated in the last couple...