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And really how do you treat the children themselves? that s the question we want to ask today s stream team. frank sherry is the founder and executive director of america s voice. jessica vaughn the senior policy analyst at the center for immigration stud ystudies. frank i want to talk about these kids. one texas lawmaker called these babies, quote, terror babies. is there a national security concern about these babies born on u.s. soil to illegal parents? no. this is a imagined threat made up by the far right if somehow people are going to be born here and come back and attack us. there s no evidence of this. the real question is, what do we do about the fact we have 11 mm-h million people here without papers, emily s parents are established, rooted in their communities. do we try to get rid of all of them or find them to meet ....
Requirements and eventually become u.s. citizens? jessica, what do you think about these so-called terror babies as a lawmaker put it. is that the issue here? it already has been a problem. anwar al awlaki is a u.s. citizen simply because his parents were here on temporary visas, a long time ago and they took him back home and raised him abroad and he was radicalized abroad and now he uses his u.s. citizenship against us. it s very well known among national security circles that terrorist groups really value having people who have american citizenship within their ranks because they can travel freely between the united states and other countries without the scrutiny that we put on other visitors, you know, who need to get a visa. what about the children themselves? well, it is an issue because, you know, someone happens to be born here and is a u.s. citizen, ....
Of people like me to make fun of you. at this point, you are making better fun of yourself. you down sized the shaming you industry. even beyond that, associated press profiled a piece of state legislation today that just cannot be true. a bill that is such a caricature of what you might suspect that it must be a joke. this is debbie riddle. you may remember her from the whole terror babies thing. regardless, debbie riddle is a member of state legislature in texas. she s a republican. she has introduced a law that would call for two years in prison, up to $10,000 in fines for anyone that intentionally, knowingly, recklessly hires an undocumented immigrant. her bill carves out one specific exemption, though. you don t get put in jail, you don t get the $10,000 in fines, you re okay, exempted from this draconian anti-hire immigrants law, you are exempted if the ....
Like you mentioned, she was behind warning about terror babies, middle eastern women coming here, getting pregnant, having babies on u.s. soil and raising them as terrorists for the future. this is normal conversation and text. texas has giant republican majorities in the legislature. what are they working on, given they can really pass anything they want to? the state faces a $27 billion, b as in billion, dollar shortfall. so there s enormous budget problems. what they re working on so far is a bill to force women that are having abortion to look at a sonogram. a resolution that empowers the legislature to demand that the u.s. congress pass the budget to some other bills dealing with sanctuary cities and nothing to do with anything that s really important. you know, i am fascinated by the distance between the branding of the republican ....
Program is pushing a conspiracy, what we call terror babies. here s what happened when we asked joe johns to take a camera crew and bring our questions to them. reporter: hey. joe johns with cnn. how are you all doing? i m sorry, he s not here right now. he stepped out for lunch. reporter: can i leave him a message? yes. reporter: joe johns. is there carter or the press secretary around? they re in a meeting right now. reporter: can i leave a message? sure. reporter: joe johns with cnn. do you know what s happening to the amendment? i haven t heard talk about it once. reporter: you haven t really? he s a co-sponsor? i don t even know the answer to that question. congressman carter s office. reporter: it s joe johns with cnn. is john stone, the press secretary in, please? is the press secretary in? is he in? sir, he s not in at the moment. ....