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Are taking this as a terror attack until they have evidence to the contrary. some are saying the way this was orchestrated with the vehicle, plowing into a crowd, that is the type of thing that isis does. former fbi assistant director ron hofstra. what do you make of that? >> isis has done that, isis has called for it. those that have aspired to connect themselves to isis have done this low intensity deadly attack repeatedly in the past. so i think your prior guest was right, that it seems strangely normal now and that citizens, whether it's in europe, great britain or here in america ought to...

Radicalization for terrorists. >> i always get obsessed on the weird stuff. >> but i can't help be fascinated by how a major western city i was ground to a halt over what was a crude terror method, a knife and a vehicle. we've seen this play out in brussels a year ago and elsewhere. but this idea that with very little intelligence advanced planing, you can do a hell of a lot of damage >> i think this was planned. people are looking at our vulnerabilities. i've done red-teaming. i've done some against specific facilities in washington. i told them i was in the shoes of isis and how i would do i...

Find it difficult to try to prevent this kind of attacks. i think there's 60 open air christmas markets in berlin alone. >> it's time to get security companies on contract to protect large amounts of people where they congregate. if you're going to have security that's workable or that does what it's supposed to do, traditionally, security hasn't been designed for terrorism, the terror method of -- or the security method for counter terror, you want to have the three d's in place, and you can use that in the private sector, you can have undercover police officers in there as well. you have the...

So-called radisson blu. there were american citizens inside. explain the latest information we're getting on what happened. >> wolf, we understand there were two to three attackers. they entered, it's believed, using diplomatic plates to get past the security there. there's a known terrorist threat there. there would be security outside the hotel. that's the way they got in. that's a known terror method, we've seen it in a number of countries. make yourself seem like you're a diplomat, soldier, policemen, you get past that security. two to three attackers on a target like that with hundreds of...