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Before, which is that there's a time for action. there's a time to do things to present bad things from happening to be able to shape events and that time in syria was when assad was on his heels and when there was a moderate coalition that was coming together. we should have supported them with arms and the time was also signing a status of forces agreement and having forces in iraq. now today we have to have the input of our intelligence services and the options provided by the military to know what action we could take to stop this isis movement from creating a terror state, but to tell you...

Heard the president say there are huge interests that the united states has now with isis threatening iraq, the potential rise of a terror state. what are you calling on the president to do to defeat that threat in iraq? >> first of all, david, i think our intelligence has failed us miserably or not being aware of the threat that we faced and how this could unfold as quickly as it has. this has been planned for quite some time. my first thing to recommend to the president is get your intelligence group back on track making sure that we have the intel that we need for our -- whatever options we...

It is already disrupting markets all over the world. if this went on for a long time, that would continue. the new reason. this group, the islamic state in iraq and syria, isis. look, if they were going to establish a state in northern iraq, establish law, circle around and live happily ever after, who would care? this is not what they are. this is a outward moving forward. they will attract jihadists from around the world. they're going to be able to plan terrorist strikes into the region, other countries, jordan, conceivably even israel, then western europe, into the united states. >> isn't ...

Stop it now. >> yes, it does have an interest because, unfortunately, what happens in iraq and syria isn't going to stay in iraq and syria. there's scores of foreign fighters, and we don't have great options for dealing with it right now with maliki in power and unwilling to share power. but we do have an interest and that's the hard question. >> it's so hard. how does the president go to the american people and say, look, i don't want this war, you don't want this war, but we have an ongoing interest here. the president did say he would prevent a terror state from ever developing after 9/11. ...

Front of our faces, this emerging terror state and air strikes, drones, drones are pop guns. there are now not 3,000 or 5,000. there are 15 to 20,000 active fighters in iraq because they are gathering militia. this is a real disciplined tough fighting force, and the only chance we have if you're not going to put boots on the ground is air power, air strikes, sustained in depth against their base in syria and iraq. >> wow. the president wants international corporation on this. he called the prim minister a canada today to discuss it. got to go. >> thanks, megyn. we have a major, major breakin...